The way things are headed, we'll be luck just to HAVE an election in 2008, without saying anything about the result -- or whether it's an honest one.

lucky, that is. Ugh.

Being of Italian descent and from Southern Oregon, I'm feeling a bit like the Geico Caveman here!!

The way things are headed, we'll be luck just to HAVE an election in 2008...

Yessir, time to buy weapons and hunker down... oops, a horn of a dilemma; more gun control laws (which I suspect Allan favors) would disarm those who would obey such laws. However, when it all goes to hell as he implies above, neither those with legal guns nor those with illegal guns would be Allan's comrades - certainly not in arms. Maybe hyperbole will serve to "disarm" those who would oppress him.

Is that the sky that is falling, or were you just spooked by your shadow, Allan?

With luck no side will be able to control and agendas, secret or otherwise, will be stifled. A 1000 new laws this session, how bizarre, I'll bet not a sunset in any of them.

My first stab, without much reflection: good session for gay rights, but only a few tentative steps toward addressing (or even acknowledging) the revenue crisis.

Re. Dems in '08: never *ever* underestimate the Democratic party's ability to blow even a gimme election.

18-11-1 is razor thin??

Lucky for some of us, the Dems have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I could be wrong, but I don't think there is an actual correct pronunciation for most latin words as it is a dead language and we don't know exactly how it sounded back then. Most likely there are multiple correct pronunciations.

The only thing that beats "the Democratic party's ability to blow even a gimme election." is the Republicans.

I could be wrong, but I don't think there is an actual correct pronunciation for most latin words as it is a dead language and we don't know exactly how it sounded back then. Most likely there are multiple correct pronunciations.

Thank you for proving one of my pet theories, which is that no matter what you post on the internet, there's some clown who will argue with you.

My friend, there is no way on God's green earth that the Romans pronounced it "seinie dye." Got it?

Correction: Technically, Gordly's an independent. But that's very technically.

Some of what they did -- particularly the Measure 37 "fix" -- was brave but is going to hurt legislators in unsafe districts.

I am crossing my fingers that this doesn't occur. IMO M-37 will cause serious permanent damage to Oregon's landscape. It appealed to voters base instincts to mistrust govt., and as usual that wins in a big way.

The legislators tasked with reforming this steaming pile did not have an enviable task--they have my respect. I'm sure that will allow them a good nights sleep!

"IMO M-37 will cause serious permanent damage to Oregon's landscape."

But Metro can overcrowd the entire region and designate large swaths of farm and forest land to be developed and what? No problemo?

Really, the hypocrisy is over the top.

Relatively speaking, M37 applies to very little of Oregon and would allow very limited, yet dispersed, development not unlike the development we see every day. The idea that the measure represents "serious permanent damage to Oregon's landscape" is simplistic hysteria.

Coupled with the exceedingly clear failure of our planning system to genuinely accommodate the needs of growth (in any terms) there is little danger of any true harm coming from M37 at all.

As with the global warming hysteria
the evidence speaks for itself.
It's no coincidence that global warming alarmists are also M37 opponents.
Apparently their hair is on fire as they make up one load of bull after another.

It's no coincidence that global warming alarmists are also M37 opponents.
Apparently their hair is on fire as they make up one load of bull after another.

I rest my case.

jimbo,
Indeed, please do. Your case is pure fiction.

So recently I was back in my home town of Columbus Ohio. Readding the Sunday paper I noticed an Op Ed piece by the President of the Central Ohio Home Builders Association. As is there want, he was criticizing local planners for their decision making. The problem was that wasn't enough land zoned for high density single family housing. To quote, "People want high density, walkable neighborhoods. The Cities refusal to zone for this land negatively affects our members abiltiy to provide home ownership for the people of Columbus and central Ohio."

Can it be that 50 years after .... the 50's, the market has turned?

Greg C

I could be wrong, but I don't think there is an actual correct pronunciation for most latin words as it is a dead language...

I had a junior high school Latin teacher who would strongly disagree.

Dead language? Never heard the Catholic mass said in Latin?

Et cum spiritu tuo.