Only in Portland. They're going to stage a sting to bust some people for traffic violations next Wednesday afternoon. So what do they do? Announce it, along with the exact locations, in advance! Shows you how out of it they figure most of us are. They're probably right.
Even more amusing are the locations chosen for this particular operation: "marked crosswalks at SE 82nd Ave & SE Foster and SE 80th Ave & SE Foster." Gotta police those people over on the Idaho side. Maybe the fines will help pay for Mike Powell and the Schnitzers' new Burnside streetcar. If it's such a service to the community, will there be a similar sting on the Strohecker's side any time soon? Don't hold your breath.
Of course, if this law enforcement action were being taken only on the west side, I'd be complaining about that, too. The point, I guess, is that it should be done even-handedly throughout town.
Interestingly, it's not clear exactly who's going to be ticketed. It's billed as a "crosswalk enforcement action." Is that to bust drivers who don't stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, or pedestrians who jaywalk? I assume it's the former.
Comments (18)
When I asked for more attention to the Eastside this isn't exactly what I meant.
I think it'd be funny if some of our local activists staged a "Community Awareness" event that coincided with the operation. You know, big banners that say: STOP FOR PEDS OR THIS COP OVER HERE WILL GIVE YOU A TICKET.
Jack: They've done these on the westside before. They always announce them ahead of time and post big banners before the enforcement saying "traffic enforcement operation ahead" or some such.
Um, I can find one reference here for one downtown. I know there have been more, too. They do these every month or two at a different place in the city.
And p.s., for those who didn't know, you are required by law to stop for pedestrians at EVERY INTERSECTION, unless there's a light controlling pedestrian behavior (i.e. a "walk/don't walk" sign). Whether you have a stop sign or not, and even if there's no crosswalk, if a pedestrian wants to cross, they have right-of-way.
I use this all the time and constantly get honked by people who don't know better and think I'm jaywalking. The police stings always take place at marked crosswalks, though.
Those two intersections they're enforcing this week are confusing, though, because don't they both have lights?
I do, and I'm not about cutting anyone off who doesn't have time to stop (I don't want to die!), but I will take a step or two off the curb, not into traffic, but enough to let them know that I intend to make them stop. Usually that's enough, but a fair amount of times, people do honk at me as I cross.
yeah, sting the people that can't afford it. you wouldn't get away with it if it were an intersection in the Pearl District, would you? pick on the little people because they can't bite back. cowards.
I live on NW 21st and Johnson and my informal data point is at least 50% of cars go right on through the cross walk while I'm standing there clearly intending to cross the street.
I don't know that evenhandedness is really great policy in this area - the fact is that the eastside leads for fatal crashes, and that includes pedestrian v. car. Wouldn't it be just a little wasteful of resources to avoid east-sider (of which I am one) hurt feelings by spreading enforcement to areas where it's not as badly needed?
The city has done a few at unmarked crosswalks as well. The one in front of the Horse Brass Pub on Belmont got the most press. I believe the 80th Ave. crosswalk is not signalized. I too do not understand the 82nd Ave. "action", unless they'll be looking for motorists who do not stop for pedestrians while making left turns.
Much of the morning and evening traffic on that stretch of Foster would have used a Mt Hood freeway.
The people who will get the tickets will reside mostly in Clackamas county, and are just passing through to their jobs. It would not really be perceived as targeted at little people but on behalf of little walking people.
Why not do a sting on all of the a**hole bicycle riders who don't stop for red lights, pedestrians, who ride on the sidewalk, etc.
I'm downtown a lot and can count on one hand the times a car has almost hit me....but a bike?!? DOZENS OF TIMES! I even had a messenger run a red light, WHILE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CROSSWALK...almost hit me (within a foot or so)...and the dude had the balls to call ME an a**hole. The cops need to focus on the problem rather than trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
I have to agree with Andrew. I am downtown every day, and I have had a couple issues with cars when I am in the crosswalks. But bike messengers are the worst! Nearly every day I am almost run down by one on the sidewalk. Then there are the people who always ride on the sidewalk. I think bikes need to be OFF the sidewalks, period. Should be a fineable offense. Bike riders have been bitching forever for bike lanes and being able to ride with traffic. Fine. But everyone needs to do it.
Andrew: they do stings on that, too. Well, not for riding on the sidewalk (at least I've never heard of that), but for running lights and stop signs.
Jon: Riding on the sidewalk IS a fineable offense, but only downtown (there's a specific bounded rectangle in which you are not allowed to ride on the sidewalk... look it up in the Portland City Code if you're interested).
Frankly, I don't even understand the point of running a red light downtown... you're just going to get stuck at the next light anyway. But I think bike messengers are the equivalent of cab drivers: they're arrogant, high-risk drivers because they get paid more the faster they can get somewhere.
OK here is some solid data. Last night I walked from 21st and Johnson to 24 Hour Fitness on 13th. Going down Johnson you cross 20th, 19th, 18th and 17th as unmarked corners, but as noted cars are still supposed to stop for you. I kept track. 1 car stopped for me, 10 drove right on through like I wasn't there.
I stood just off the curb facing across the St. clearly intending to cross.
Charamba, Douro 2008
Horse Heaven Hills, Cabernet 2010
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills Pinot Grigio 2011
Avignonesi, Montepulciano 2004
Lorelle, Willamette Valley Pinot Noir 2011
Villa Antinori, Toscana 2007
Mercedes Eguren, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Lorelle, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2011
Purple Moon, Merlot 2011
Purple Moon, Chardonnnay 2011
Abacela, Vintner's Blend No. 12
Opula Red Blend 2010
Liberte, Pinot Noir 2010
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Indian Wells Red Blend 2010
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2011
King Estate, Pinot Noir 2011
Famille Perrin, Cotes du Rhone Villages 2010
Columbia Crest, Les Chevaux Red 2010
14 Hands, Hot to Trot White Blend
Familia Bianchi, Malbec 2009
Terrapin Cellars, Pinot Gris 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2009
Campo Viejo, Rioja, Termpranillo 2010
Ravenswood, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2010
Waterbrook, Reserve Merlot 2009
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills, Pinot Grigio 2011
Tarantas, Rose
Chateau Lajarre, Bordeaux 2009
La Vielle Ferme, Rose 2011
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio 2011
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir 2009
Lello, Douro Tinto 2009
Quinson Fils, Cotes de Provence Rose 2011
Anindor, Pinot Gris 2010
Buenas Ondas, Syrah Rose 2010
Les Fiefs d'Anglars, Malbec 2009
14 Hands, Pinot Gris 2011
Conundrum 2012
Condes de Albarei, Albariño 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2007
Penelope Sanchez, Garnacha Syrah 2010
Canoe Ridge, Merlot 2007
Atalaya do Mar, Godello 2010
Vega Montan, Mencia
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir, Marlborough 2009
Portuga, Rose 2011
Revelation, Chardonnay, Pays d'Oc 2010
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 2005
Monte Alto, Tinto Reserva 2005
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Cabernet, Indian Wells 2009
Espiral, Vinho Rose
Vin-Koru, Pinot Gris 2011
14 Hands, Hot to Trot Red 2009
Rodney Strong, Cabernet, Sonoma 2009
Abacela, Vintner's Blend #11
Portuga, White 2010
La Bourgeoisie, Red 2009
Januik, Red 2009
Three Rivers, River's Red 2008
Kirkland, Alexander Valley Merlot 2008
Muga, Rioja Rose 2010
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2009
Mauro Molino, Barbera d'Alba 2009
Garda Chiaretto Rose
Columbia Crest, Two Vines Vineyard 10 White
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Pinot Gris, Columbia Valley 2009
L'Hortus, Rose de Saignee 2010
Maculan, Pino & Toi 2008
McKinley Springs, Bombing Range Red 2008
Trader Joe's Pinot Gris 2009
Montes Alpha, Cabernet 2007
Gran Sasso, Sangiovese, Terre di Chieti 2009
Garda, Classico Chiaretto Rose
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1999
Picos del Montgo, Tempranillo 2008
Chateau de Montmirail, Vacqueyras 2008
La Granja 360, Syrah 2009
Montgras, Carmenere Reserva 2009
Lange, Pinot Gris 2009
Columbia Crest, Horse Heaven Hills Cabernet 2008
Kirkland, Pinot Grigio 2010
Trader Joe's Coastal Syrah 2009
Columbia Crest, Horse Heaven Hills Merlot 2008
Trader Joe's Coastal Chardonnay 2009
Vieux Papes Red
Domaine de l'Aujardiere, Chardonnay 2009
Santa Rita, Cabernet, Medalla Real 2007
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet 2008
Guild, Red, Lot #02 2008
Dievole, Dievolino Sangiovese 2008
Laforet, Burgogne Chardonnay 2009
Columbia Winery, Merlot 2007
Bonterra, Cabernet 2008
Elk Cove, Pinot Gris 2009
Maquis Lien 2006
Scott Paul, Pinot Noir, Le Paulee 2007
The Occasional Book
Neil Young - Waging Heavy Peace
Mark Bego - Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul (2012 ed.)
Jenny Lawson - Let's Pretend This Never Happened
J.D. Salinger - Franny and Zooey
Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol
Timothy Egan - The Big Burn
Deborah Eisenberg - Transactions in a Foreign Currency
Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five
Kathryn Lance - Pandora's Genes
Cheryl Strayed - Wild
Fyodor Dostoyevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
Jack London - The House of Pride, and Other Tales of Hawaii
Jack Walker - The Extraordinary Rendition of Vincent Dellamaria
Colum McCann - Let the Great World Spin
Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince
Harper Lee - To Kill a Mockingbird
Emma McLaughlin & Nicola Kraus - The Nanny Diaries
Brian Selznick - The Invention of Hugo Cabret
Sharon Creech - Walk Two Moons
Keith Richards - Life
F. Sionil Jose - Dusk
Natalie Babbitt - Tuck Everlasting
Justin Halpern - S#*t My Dad Says
Mark Herrmann - The Curmudgeon's Guide to Practicing Law
Barry Glassner - The Gospel of Food
Phil Stanford - The Peyton-Allan Files
Jesse Katz - The Opposite Field
Evelyn Waugh - Brideshead Revisited
J.K. Rowling - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
David Sedaris - Holidays on Ice
Donald Miller - A Million Miles in a Thousand Years
Mitch Albom - Have a Little Faith
C.S. Lewis - The Magician's Nephew
F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby
William Shakespeare - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Ivan Doig - Bucking the Sun
Penda Diakité - I Lost My Tooth in Africa
Grace Lin - The Year of the Rat
Oscar Hijuelos - Mr. Ives' Christmas
Madeline L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
Steven Hart - The Last Three Miles
David Sedaris - Me Talk Pretty One Day
Karen Armstrong - The Spiral Staircase
Charles Larson - The Portland Murders
Adrian Wojnarowski - The Miracle of St. Anthony
William H. Colby - Long Goodbye
Steven D. Stark - Meet the Beatles
Phil Stanford - Portland Confidential
Rick Moody - Garden State
Jonathan Schwartz - All in Good Time
David Sedaris - Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim
Anthony Holden - Big Deal
Robert J. Spitzer - The Spirit of Leadership
James McManus - Positively Fifth Street
Jeff Noon - Vurt
Road Work
Miles run year to date: 21
At this date last year: 52
Total run in 2012: 129
In 2011: 113
In 2010: 125
In 2009: 67
In 2008: 28
In 2007: 113
In 2006: 100
In 2005: 149
In 2004: 204
In 2003: 269
Comments (18)
When I asked for more attention to the Eastside this isn't exactly what I meant.
Posted by montavillian | April 18, 2007 12:45 PM
I think it'd be funny if some of our local activists staged a "Community Awareness" event that coincided with the operation. You know, big banners that say: STOP FOR PEDS OR THIS COP OVER HERE WILL GIVE YOU A TICKET.
Posted by garage Wine | April 18, 2007 1:21 PM
Jack: They've done these on the westside before. They always announce them ahead of time and post big banners before the enforcement saying "traffic enforcement operation ahead" or some such.
Um, I can find one reference here for one downtown. I know there have been more, too. They do these every month or two at a different place in the city.
Posted by no one in particular | April 18, 2007 1:27 PM
And p.s., for those who didn't know, you are required by law to stop for pedestrians at EVERY INTERSECTION, unless there's a light controlling pedestrian behavior (i.e. a "walk/don't walk" sign). Whether you have a stop sign or not, and even if there's no crosswalk, if a pedestrian wants to cross, they have right-of-way.
I use this all the time and constantly get honked by people who don't know better and think I'm jaywalking. The police stings always take place at marked crosswalks, though.
Those two intersections they're enforcing this week are confusing, though, because don't they both have lights?
Posted by no one in particular | April 18, 2007 1:43 PM
noip,
do you stop and look both ways before crossing the street?
just askin'
Posted by rr | April 18, 2007 1:49 PM
I do, and I'm not about cutting anyone off who doesn't have time to stop (I don't want to die!), but I will take a step or two off the curb, not into traffic, but enough to let them know that I intend to make them stop. Usually that's enough, but a fair amount of times, people do honk at me as I cross.
Posted by no one in particular | April 18, 2007 1:59 PM
Rumor has it that Dufay just bolts into the street, bellowing and daring anyone to hit him.
You'd think he was a bicyclist.
Posted by rr | April 18, 2007 2:32 PM
yeah, sting the people that can't afford it. you wouldn't get away with it if it were an intersection in the Pearl District, would you? pick on the little people because they can't bite back. cowards.
Posted by thor | April 18, 2007 2:34 PM
To add to NOIP's comment.
I live on NW 21st and Johnson and my informal data point is at least 50% of cars go right on through the cross walk while I'm standing there clearly intending to cross the street.
Posted by Eric | April 18, 2007 4:25 PM
I don't know that evenhandedness is really great policy in this area - the fact is that the eastside leads for fatal crashes, and that includes pedestrian v. car. Wouldn't it be just a little wasteful of resources to avoid east-sider (of which I am one) hurt feelings by spreading enforcement to areas where it's not as badly needed?
Posted by Amanda | April 18, 2007 7:31 PM
The city has done a few at unmarked crosswalks as well. The one in front of the Horse Brass Pub on Belmont got the most press. I believe the 80th Ave. crosswalk is not signalized. I too do not understand the 82nd Ave. "action", unless they'll be looking for motorists who do not stop for pedestrians while making left turns.
Posted by Doug | April 18, 2007 10:37 PM
Much of the morning and evening traffic on that stretch of Foster would have used a Mt Hood freeway.
The people who will get the tickets will reside mostly in Clackamas county, and are just passing through to their jobs. It would not really be perceived as targeted at little people but on behalf of little walking people.
It is a little like the City of Coburg and their patrolling of I-5. It won't cause a fuss with the local voters.
Posted by pdxnag | April 18, 2007 11:29 PM
Where is Sam on this? If there was a tram over those intersections there would be no need for this sting....pedestrian safety would be assured....
Come on Sam...get with the program....
Posted by thaddeus | April 19, 2007 9:16 AM
Why not do a sting on all of the a**hole bicycle riders who don't stop for red lights, pedestrians, who ride on the sidewalk, etc.
I'm downtown a lot and can count on one hand the times a car has almost hit me....but a bike?!? DOZENS OF TIMES! I even had a messenger run a red light, WHILE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CROSSWALK...almost hit me (within a foot or so)...and the dude had the balls to call ME an a**hole. The cops need to focus on the problem rather than trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Posted by Andrew | April 19, 2007 10:07 AM
I have to agree with Andrew. I am downtown every day, and I have had a couple issues with cars when I am in the crosswalks. But bike messengers are the worst! Nearly every day I am almost run down by one on the sidewalk. Then there are the people who always ride on the sidewalk. I think bikes need to be OFF the sidewalks, period. Should be a fineable offense. Bike riders have been bitching forever for bike lanes and being able to ride with traffic. Fine. But everyone needs to do it.
Posted by Jon | April 19, 2007 10:18 AM
Andrew: they do stings on that, too. Well, not for riding on the sidewalk (at least I've never heard of that), but for running lights and stop signs.
Jon: Riding on the sidewalk IS a fineable offense, but only downtown (there's a specific bounded rectangle in which you are not allowed to ride on the sidewalk... look it up in the Portland City Code if you're interested).
Frankly, I don't even understand the point of running a red light downtown... you're just going to get stuck at the next light anyway. But I think bike messengers are the equivalent of cab drivers: they're arrogant, high-risk drivers because they get paid more the faster they can get somewhere.
Posted by no one in particular | April 19, 2007 1:38 PM
Riding on the sidewalk IS a fineable offense, but only downtown
Thats fine. But how come its not enforced?
Like I said, I am downtown every day. I see people riding on the sidewalks all the time.
I don't even understand the point of running a red light downtown... you're just going to get stuck at the next light anyway.
Doesnt matter, the bike riders ignore them anyway.
Posted by Jon | April 19, 2007 11:27 PM
OK here is some solid data. Last night I walked from 21st and Johnson to 24 Hour Fitness on 13th. Going down Johnson you cross 20th, 19th, 18th and 17th as unmarked corners, but as noted cars are still supposed to stop for you. I kept track. 1 car stopped for me, 10 drove right on through like I wasn't there.
I stood just off the curb facing across the St. clearly intending to cross.
Posted by Eric | April 20, 2007 2:46 PM