Totally. On the other hand: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/opinion/14niman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Sick and tired, indeed. Criminals, pure and simple. I'm sure that they, like the "eco-terrorists" believe their actions to be justified. They tarnish the just-causes they are supposedly trying to advance, and make it easy for others to dismiss these causes altogether. Protests, boycotts, civil disobedience take patience - but are ultimately more effective than vandalism and violence.

Well, hey. We've not seen them around for awhile, so they were probably feeling missed, and just wanted to say "hey". Being ecoterrorists, they're just going to sneak in under cover of darkness, do a bit of vandalism, then bravely sneak away. Seems like a great time to purchase some more GSK stock, though.

ALF's stated motive for targeting Wachovia dates back to 2005, when Wachovia welcomed a GSK's Vice President to join their board. That said, there isn't a major brokerage firm in the world that doesn't own pharmaceutical or "animal testing" related biotech companies. Notably, Wachovia doesn't "own" any shares of GSK (Glaxo Smith Kline) for themselves, they merely hold them on behalf of their clients. There are three institutions that own larger stakes than Wachovia, including the darling of no-load mutual funds, Dodge & Cox.

Even if the debate is reduced to torturing animals in order to prove the efficacy and safety of lifesaving drugs/treatments for humans (a false dichotomy), that's fine by me. I would rather they focus their experiments on rodents, rabbits, and monkeys, but if they need to use cats and dogs, they won't hear a peep out of me.

Given the success enjoyed by local activists in driving Schumacher Fur out of Portland (& Tre-Arrow et al), it only makes sense that we will continue to represent the cutting edge of anti-establishment terrorist intrigue.

What's next? A firebombing campaign against McDonalds and KFC unless they switch to soy burgers and Tofurky?

Personally, I am much more deeply offended by the billions of dollars spent on doggie daycare, clothing, and toys in a society where children still go to bed hungry.

anti-establishment terrorist intrigue.

"Eco-terrorist" and other such labels just feeds the bs...they're a**holes, nothing more. Nothing more.

"Protests, boycotts, civil disobedience take patience - but are ultimately more effective than vandalism and violence."

I completely agree, and the fact that violence and vandalism do tarnish otherwise just causes and derail debate and discussion causes me to wonder whether this stuff doesn't start with agent provocateur (sp?) types, especially given the way, here in Portland, animal users try to lump animal advocates in with "terrorists".

Cythia, they are targeting specific people with death threats because of their choice of employment. They have burned businesses, residences, tree farms, academic institutions, endangered lives and done millions of dollars worth of damage to our economy. They are Oregon's Khmer Rouge... Hunt them down and let them die in prison.

causes me to wonder whether this stuff doesn't start with agent provocateur (sp?) types

That's an excellent question, Cynthia.

When "advocates" do something that totally turns people away from supporting a cause, you really have to wonder about their motives. Or, alternatively, their intelligence.

Peaceful protest outside Wachovia's offices is one thing, but tracking folks down at their homes is over the line. It's time for the authorities to aggressively prosecute this kind of behavior.

By the way, Mayor Potter told me at the budget forum a couple weeks ago that the Portland Police had made 135 arrests during the Schumacher protests. I never heard that in the media.

"Portland Police had made 135 arrests during the Schumacher protests."

And that was just the arrests of the Schumachers.

If these groups want my respect they need to clean up their act.
It is hard to see them as credible when they engage in such behavior. They hurt their own cause.
This is the very reason I quit donating to groups such as PETA, and have never donated to ALF.
If they want my money, they need to use protest tactics I approve of.

Allen L:
Ha! Good point. I didn't ask they mayor who was arrested.

First they came for the furriers...and I said nothing.
This conduct bothers me on so many different levels, not the least of which is, after witnessing the protests of Hurley's Restaurant (which had foie gras on the menu),the politicization of food. These people are of the mindset that killing animals for any reason is bad and that includes food production.
To me food is the ultimate communicator. Breaking bread with someone,even an enemy, has always been a bonding experience(Unless your Michael Corleone). I can accept that some vegetarians don't like meat, although for most I think it is part of a political agenda. What infuriates me most is the legislators who attempt to legitimize these positions by sponsoring laws banning certain foods.
My apologies to the Schumachers but I'm drawing a line in the sand.
FOIE GRAS or FIGHT!