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Remember that story about the first baby born in the United States in the New Year -- and the corporation that refused to give her the prize she won for that honor because her mother was not a legal U.S. resident? In case you missed the followup, the sponsor, Toys 'R' Us, has decided to go ahead and give that baby, and two others born at the same time, each a prize. As I said when the original story was in the news, that's the only sane outcome, and since the prize was $25K, a megacompany like that can easily afford it. It's a small price to pay to avert an enormous loss of valuable goodwill.
Comments (14)
Might as well give it to them! They go to emergency rooms for "Cures R Us" on our money. But the loss of good will? By who? I think the majority of legal residents would applaud if they would have to stuck to their guns. Who was Jose's lawyer? John Edwards?
There's nothing illegal about that baby -- he is a US citizen just like you and me. For those opposed to that, feel free to amend the Constitution. You'll fail, and create a new electoral majority for Democrats.
Oh, and Jim, the vast majority of uncompensated care in the ER is for US citizens. Let's solve that problem before we start bashing immigrants.
There's nothing illegal about that baby -- he is a US citizen just like you and me. For those opposed to that, feel free to amend the Constitution. You'll fail, and create a new electoral majority for Democrats.
Oh, and Jim, the vast majority of uncompensated care in the ER is for US citizens. Let's solve that problem before
1) No not now, but when Josette was floating up that canal to the egg of gold, he/she and the two "ILLEGAL" parents were.
2)Speak for yourself about the comparison of citizeneships.
3) I would agree to assist the uncompensated care of legal residents before the illegals. But you yourself admit that the illegals are part of that problem. Simple math tell us who the majority are.
Just for the sake of discussion, and not as a commentary on the blessed couple and new baby ... IF the family is unable to pay its hospital bill, should the hospital take the gift?
Speak for yourself about the comparison of citizeneships
I'm not sure what you are implying here, Jim. Are you saying that a U.S. citizen born to illegal immigrants is somehow less of a citizen than a citizen born to legal residents? Perhaps you might say they are "second-class" citizens? If so, you'll please excuse me if I find this notion repugnant.
When people are upset at adults who break immigration laws, I can understand. But when people direct their ire at children who have had absolutely no say in their predicament, it really bothers me.
It's silly, too. The children of immigrants, over all, are more likely to become prosperous and productive. Their net contribution to the economy is not a drain, but positive.
If people are really worried about the cost of uncompensated care for ER patients, then they will consider implementing a system in which each person has health insurance.
If people are really worried about the cost of uncompensated care for ER patients, then they will consider implementing a system in which each person has health insurance.
I'm not sure what you are implying here, Jim. Are you saying that a U.S. citizen born to illegal immigrants is somehow less of a citizen than a citizen born to legal residents? Perhaps you might say they are "second-class" citizens? If so, you'll please excuse me if I find this notion repugnant.
When people are upset at adults who break immigration laws, I can understand. But when people direct their ire at children who have had absolutely no say in their predicament, it really bothers me.
It's silly, too. The children of immigrants, over all, are more likely to become prosperous and productive. Their net contribution to the economy is not a drain, but positive.
If people are really worried about the cost of uncompensated care for ER patients, then they will consider implementing a system in which each person has health insurance.
Posted by PID | January 17, 2007 12:00 AM
1) Okay you are excused for thinking it as repugnant.
2) My ire is mostly at the parents, not Josette.
3) They are not immigrants they are illegals first of all!!
4) Right, health insurance for "each" person who is a legal resident. The rest should be denied health care.
Were you born here? If so, what did you do that resulted in you becoming a US citizen?
I ask this in all seriousness. The answer, of course, is that you did nothing. It was 100% luck. The equivalent of native citizens bashing immigrants is a lottery winner bashing those who are trying to win as somehow undeserving. It's morally absurd.
There are good practical reasons why we don't have open borders, even if few of us did anything to deserve our birthright. But actively denying health care to those who are here illegally is not only repugnant, it's downright evil and an assault on humanity.
Yeah, I was born here, I came over on the Mayflower!
What I did in resulting for me to become an American citizen was that I was born here as were the previous two generations of Goldens. Neither me or my previous family slogged through a river and came across the border, entered the country and worked without paying taxes,immediately fornicating in order to have a little legal illegal!! My family is listed on the Ellis Island rolls are yours?
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Comments (14)
Might as well give it to them! They go to emergency rooms for "Cures R Us" on our money. But the loss of good will? By who? I think the majority of legal residents would applaud if they would have to stuck to their guns. Who was Jose's lawyer? John Edwards?
Posted by Jim Golden | January 16, 2007 11:12 AM
Yeah, those newborn illegal immigrant babies are bloodsuckers.
Posted by Allan L. | January 16, 2007 11:14 AM
Yeah, those newborn illegal immigrant babies are bloodsuckers.
More like "cash cows."
Posted by Jon | January 16, 2007 11:17 AM
How much of Jose's money do you think Josette will get?
Posted by Jim Golden | January 16, 2007 11:17 AM
Jose's money? The baby is Chinese. Get a grip.
And it was a savings bond, so nobody is getting anything for a while.
Posted by Jon | January 16, 2007 11:24 AM
There's nothing illegal about that baby -- he is a US citizen just like you and me. For those opposed to that, feel free to amend the Constitution. You'll fail, and create a new electoral majority for Democrats.
Oh, and Jim, the vast majority of uncompensated care in the ER is for US citizens. Let's solve that problem before we start bashing immigrants.
Posted by Miles | January 16, 2007 11:29 AM
There's nothing illegal about that baby -- he is a US citizen just like you and me. For those opposed to that, feel free to amend the Constitution. You'll fail, and create a new electoral majority for Democrats.
Oh, and Jim, the vast majority of uncompensated care in the ER is for US citizens. Let's solve that problem before
1) No not now, but when Josette was floating up that canal to the egg of gold, he/she and the two "ILLEGAL" parents were.
2)Speak for yourself about the comparison of citizeneships.
3) I would agree to assist the uncompensated care of legal residents before the illegals. But you yourself admit that the illegals are part of that problem. Simple math tell us who the majority are.
Posted by Jim Golden | January 16, 2007 11:51 AM
the vast majority of uncompensated care in the ER is for US citizens.
Possibly. Just because the population is higher. However, its a pretty safe bet that ALL "illegals" getting care..are getting "uncompensated care."
Posted by Jon | January 16, 2007 12:28 PM
Just for the sake of discussion, and not as a commentary on the blessed couple and new baby ... IF the family is unable to pay its hospital bill, should the hospital take the gift?
Posted by Molly | January 16, 2007 5:06 PM
Speak for yourself about the comparison of citizeneships
I'm not sure what you are implying here, Jim. Are you saying that a U.S. citizen born to illegal immigrants is somehow less of a citizen than a citizen born to legal residents? Perhaps you might say they are "second-class" citizens? If so, you'll please excuse me if I find this notion repugnant.
When people are upset at adults who break immigration laws, I can understand. But when people direct their ire at children who have had absolutely no say in their predicament, it really bothers me.
It's silly, too. The children of immigrants, over all, are more likely to become prosperous and productive. Their net contribution to the economy is not a drain, but positive.
If people are really worried about the cost of uncompensated care for ER patients, then they will consider implementing a system in which each person has health insurance.
Posted by PID | January 17, 2007 12:00 AM
If people are really worried about the cost of uncompensated care for ER patients, then they will consider implementing a system in which each person has health insurance.
Each person, or each citizen?
Posted by Jon | January 17, 2007 9:46 AM
I'm not sure what you are implying here, Jim. Are you saying that a U.S. citizen born to illegal immigrants is somehow less of a citizen than a citizen born to legal residents? Perhaps you might say they are "second-class" citizens? If so, you'll please excuse me if I find this notion repugnant.
When people are upset at adults who break immigration laws, I can understand. But when people direct their ire at children who have had absolutely no say in their predicament, it really bothers me.
It's silly, too. The children of immigrants, over all, are more likely to become prosperous and productive. Their net contribution to the economy is not a drain, but positive.
If people are really worried about the cost of uncompensated care for ER patients, then they will consider implementing a system in which each person has health insurance.
Posted by PID | January 17, 2007 12:00 AM
1) Okay you are excused for thinking it as repugnant.
2) My ire is mostly at the parents, not Josette.
3) They are not immigrants they are illegals first of all!!
4) Right, health insurance for "each" person who is a legal resident. The rest should be denied health care.
Posted by Jim Golden | January 17, 2007 11:55 AM
Jim --
Were you born here? If so, what did you do that resulted in you becoming a US citizen?
I ask this in all seriousness. The answer, of course, is that you did nothing. It was 100% luck. The equivalent of native citizens bashing immigrants is a lottery winner bashing those who are trying to win as somehow undeserving. It's morally absurd.
There are good practical reasons why we don't have open borders, even if few of us did anything to deserve our birthright. But actively denying health care to those who are here illegally is not only repugnant, it's downright evil and an assault on humanity.
Posted by Miles | January 17, 2007 4:45 PM
Yeah, I was born here, I came over on the Mayflower!
What I did in resulting for me to become an American citizen was that I was born here as were the previous two generations of Goldens. Neither me or my previous family slogged through a river and came across the border, entered the country and worked without paying taxes,immediately fornicating in order to have a little legal illegal!! My family is listed on the Ellis Island rolls are yours?
Posted by Jim Golden | January 18, 2007 4:11 AM