but bog, where's the proportionality (as members of the democrat party are wont to say)...why does the uptown tower get turned down...when the riverfront towers get a thumbs up...or should we just follow the money (into fireman randy's pocket among other places). where's the "controlling legal authority" (thanks al)
lars

Republicans stay away from words like proportionality only because it would interfere with their mouth breathing.

I've been out of town for a year, but are you for real that Elephant's is gone? Bummer.

No, they just moved -- I believe around the corner (no doubt to get away from the doom of Condo Tower Construction Without Parking).

"or should we just follow the money (into fireman randy's pocket among other places)...lars"

Lars-
I hope you have a good lawyer...because I am considering suing you for these repeated lies that you say about me. I have seen a lawyer and you have crossed the line.

If you think I am kidding...say it one more time.
Randy

Sue him, Randy!! What a creep!

Posted by Jack: Anyway, nice going, Northwest neighbors, for forestalling the latest in the continuing Californication of Portland for another few weeks.

JK: Agreed. Does this mean you also think that Portland is becoming more like Los Angelas, as some people (including me claim)? It is also stated in one Metro document (Metro Measured) as LA being something we wish to "replicate".

JK

This Randy/Lars argument makes me curious.

How difficult is it to prove that Lars actually wrote that statement at the top?

Anyone can type in a name and email address. But can you still trace the comment to a specific "address" and prove that a specific person wrote that comment?

Just curious. I plan on doing a little defamation later today.

Jack, "Californication" of an infill inner city site like this wouldn't involve putting a 14-story condo tower on it.

If this were Los Angeles, the site would remain direlict, part of an inner city neglected crime-ridden slum. Or perhaps it would have a fast food outlet put on it.

If this were San Francisco, the 14-story condo tower would be denied because it wasn't properly feng shui. Instead, a homeless shelter would be proposed.

A 14-story condo tower on a site like this is exactly what makes Portland different from California.

I read Californication to mean the phenomenon of Californians moving to Oregon with big money to spend on things like new, often overpriced condos and the effects of this on places like Portland.(It's also the title of one of the crappiest Red Hot Chili Peppers albums out there.)

jack, could you assist me in understanding who's who in your names- i know fireman randy and grampy, but who's opie and big pipe?

Randy,

Re your silly defamation threat: You repeated it, so now you have no case. Guess you should have hired a better lawyer, or exercised a little self-control, huh?

A 14-story condo tower on a site like this is exactly what makes Portland different from California.

To you. To me it's just another San Francisco or Seattle -- two places that I'm glad I don't live. Two places that I deliberately chose not to live when I moved here. Two places that even have real economies to offset the vertical sprawl, and they're still not worth it. There's no such mitigation around here.

Give my love to Nicolas Cage's mother.

I have news for you, Jack. Nicholas Cage's mother and all those other Californians are still going to move here. Something in the Constitution about "right to travel." California rapidly becoming unlivable might have something to do with it.

So we have three choices. We can build a 14-story condo for Nicholas Cage's mother near downtown. We can have Nicholas Cage's mother move out into suburban sprawl-land (maybe one of the "Measure 37 Estates" projects soon to be built). Or we can build nothing, and Nicholas Cage's mother and other Californians can use their real estate riches to send housing prices skyrocketing. Which won't affect me (and presumably you) since I own a home already. But as for my children ...

Thank you, Gordo. The condo towers are "for the children." When the debate reaches that level, it's time to have a laugh and a glass of wine.

Could we at least make Nic Cage's mother pay some property taxes here? No. And she'll vote against your kids' interests every time.

Brett: Opie is Grampy's favorite youngster. Big Pipe is in charge of the world's most expensive sewer project.

Supply and demand, Jack. Housing units are housing units. If you stop building them, and the demand continues going up, prices go up.

I don't know about the laugh, but the glass of wine sounds great. I recently received a loving gift of "Old Fart" red wine (a Trader Joe's concoction) from my beloved wife. I don't remember the specific variety, but it was actually OK. Now that it's done, maybe it's time for some more.

Randy,
That was classic you.

>"If you think I am kidding...say it one more time.Randy"Randy,
That was classic you.

>"If you think I am kidding...say it one more time.Randy"

Adolescent and lazy on top of being a typically bad politician. The part about seeing a lawyer you probably lied about as well.
You took big bucks from developers (as your C&E reports showed). You then voted for their pockets, dished out lies about the whole South Waterfront being a "toxic wasteland" and lied again about big public subsidies being the only option. You buy into the absurd Tram and every other bag of nonsense without doing any homework. You are the worst possible policy maker.
Your entire approach to leadership is take money, make things up and ignore every contradiction.

With the JTTF you don't even bother getting your position confirmed by own police cheif. Now that he publicly contradicts you, you stillhave the same lame notions.

Is Opie really a Socialist, or does he just Smell (I mean smile) like one? Has the fireman been to anger management counseling? Is he getting divorces? He sounds like he's one paper cut away from cooling off next door to Derry Jackson.

New name idea for the Portland City Council (from Chinaelections.Org)

Portland Township People's Congress (P.T.P.C.)

Is Opie really a Socialist, or does he just Smell (I mean smile) like one? Has the fireman been to anger management counseling? Is he getting divorces? He sounds like he's one paper cut away from cooling off next door to Derry Jackson.

For the record, I DIDNT POST THIS! WOW, someone has the council dead on!