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Just when I was about to repent from my worst un-PC ways, I come across some very fiery remarks from one Mr. Bill Cosby, who took the opportunity on the anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education to say some things he felt he needed to say.
Click here and here and scroll down to read some of them.
Regardless of whether you agree with the Coz, you've got to admit that it's a great country we live in that he can speak his mind. (Via Rosenblog.)
Comments (7)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't one of Cosby's daughters have a drug problem? Aren't drugs illegal? Where were the parents? Or was this when Bill Cosby was having the affair that blew up in his face a few years ago....I can only assume that his daughter never saw jail time because of her rich parents
I can agree with his sentiment, but nothing annoys me more than hypocrisy
A black columnist with the Milwaukee Journal-Tribune took Cosby to task after he read reports of the speech.
After a long conversation with Cosby - where he apparently talked about his illegitimate child, along with some incorrect interpretations of what he'd originally said - the columnist recanted most of his earlier criticism.
Cosby's criticisms are not as hypocritical as they seem because Cosby was taking care of his problems. Yes, his daughter doing drugs was bad - but she wasn't cranking out kids the gov't (my tax dollars) would support. He had a child out of wedlock himself, but again, it wasn't something I am picking up the tab for. And in none of these cases are the folks involved citing the world-at-large as the cause of their problems.
Cosby's criticisms were against a culture of failure, blaming others, and taking handouts. The morale failures of Bill and his own family don't fall into the "give me a handout while I blame others" category which he was speaking about. His criticisms are valid and still stand.
I knew somebody was going to bring up Bill's affair and daughter. First of all, if you want to chastise him for having an affair first stand him in the long line, the one with men who have affairs. He still is not in the "jail line" and as far as his daughter, that can happen to the best of us. Look no further than the Bush Empire. So let's get back on the subject. SOME blacks have messed up slave/ghetto values. I and millions of other blacks realize that the "values" some blacks hold dear are a direct result of the brutal system of slavery, but there is no reason to continue it. The big bad nigger on the plantation was the one all other slaves learned to respect. But is there any use for a big bad nigger today? He can't hold down a job. At one time blacks were lynched for having the desire to read, teach and build schools. There is no reason to avoid education today. Black women were given a silver dollar for every black child she provided for her master, so did this turn into a welfare dollar per child? There is no need for it. Pig guts were boiled, put in a trough and we were called to eat. Now we call "shitterlings" a delicacy and say it is our heritage. Well a big dumb nigger bully with poor dietary habits is not my culture, and just like chitterlings the slavery/ghetto mentality stinks and I want nothing to do with it.
I can't believe in this day in time people actually believe that everything is fine. Slavery to some has just been an inconvenience, a time when things weren't quite convenient, but as a black man of 51 in this country today I cannot convey the pain and indignity that slavery did display. I'm not a rapper, I'm not trying to make million dollars of this explanation of my feeling, but for those who have not experienced the pain and suffering of my ancestors "inconvenience" you will never perceive the things that I experience. To grow up in a country that has seen us as chattle and no more than a slave to perform the task that they gave us but even today they continue to enslave us by the perpetration of ideals that don't represent us as the music continues to offend us. It is now the time that we must defy who represents us in this life that we seek, content and it is by the ideals that we convey each and every day to our children, our wives, our husbands that will be the mantle of our true self that we place prominently upon the shelf.
What does Bill Cosby having an illegitimate daughter have to do with African American families who care more about what their kids wear than what they learn? Illegitimacy doesn't automatically mean illiteracy.
I don't know how old Cosby's daughter was when she had her drug problem, but as a single mom of two sons, you raise your kids to the best of your ability, but at some point in time they become adults and make their own choices.
The same people who are shopping at the 24-hour Wal-Mart at 1:00 a.m. with their young children on a school night, who don't get involved with PTA, don't get their children to school on time or make them do their homework because their kid is going to be an NBA star anyway, will be the first ones to bitch that their kids aren't getting a fair shake.
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Comments (7)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't one of Cosby's daughters have a drug problem? Aren't drugs illegal? Where were the parents? Or was this when Bill Cosby was having the affair that blew up in his face a few years ago....I can only assume that his daughter never saw jail time because of her rich parents
I can agree with his sentiment, but nothing annoys me more than hypocrisy
Posted by Steve | May 24, 2004 7:30 AM
You will notice that he is only allowed to make these comments because he is black.
If a white person had said this ... well that wouldn't have been "Free Speech" but "Hate Speech."
Not an opinion on his comments, but an opinion on the reaction to them.
Posted by Evil_Dave | May 24, 2004 9:14 AM
A black columnist with the Milwaukee Journal-Tribune took Cosby to task after he read reports of the speech.
After a long conversation with Cosby - where he apparently talked about his illegitimate child, along with some incorrect interpretations of what he'd originally said - the columnist recanted most of his earlier criticism.
It's interesting reading...
Posted by Betsy | May 24, 2004 11:05 AM
Cosby's criticisms are not as hypocritical as they seem because Cosby was taking care of his problems. Yes, his daughter doing drugs was bad - but she wasn't cranking out kids the gov't (my tax dollars) would support. He had a child out of wedlock himself, but again, it wasn't something I am picking up the tab for. And in none of these cases are the folks involved citing the world-at-large as the cause of their problems.
Cosby's criticisms were against a culture of failure, blaming others, and taking handouts. The morale failures of Bill and his own family don't fall into the "give me a handout while I blame others" category which he was speaking about. His criticisms are valid and still stand.
Posted by Scott-in-Japan | May 24, 2004 1:58 PM
I knew somebody was going to bring up Bill's affair and daughter. First of all, if you want to chastise him for having an affair first stand him in the long line, the one with men who have affairs. He still is not in the "jail line" and as far as his daughter, that can happen to the best of us. Look no further than the Bush Empire. So let's get back on the subject. SOME blacks have messed up slave/ghetto values. I and millions of other blacks realize that the "values" some blacks hold dear are a direct result of the brutal system of slavery, but there is no reason to continue it. The big bad nigger on the plantation was the one all other slaves learned to respect. But is there any use for a big bad nigger today? He can't hold down a job. At one time blacks were lynched for having the desire to read, teach and build schools. There is no reason to avoid education today. Black women were given a silver dollar for every black child she provided for her master, so did this turn into a welfare dollar per child? There is no need for it. Pig guts were boiled, put in a trough and we were called to eat. Now we call "shitterlings" a delicacy and say it is our heritage. Well a big dumb nigger bully with poor dietary habits is not my culture, and just like chitterlings the slavery/ghetto mentality stinks and I want nothing to do with it.
Posted by watson | May 28, 2004 3:21 PM
I can't believe in this day in time people actually believe that everything is fine. Slavery to some has just been an inconvenience, a time when things weren't quite convenient, but as a black man of 51 in this country today I cannot convey the pain and indignity that slavery did display. I'm not a rapper, I'm not trying to make million dollars of this explanation of my feeling, but for those who have not experienced the pain and suffering of my ancestors "inconvenience" you will never perceive the things that I experience. To grow up in a country that has seen us as chattle and no more than a slave to perform the task that they gave us but even today they continue to enslave us by the perpetration of ideals that don't represent us as the music continues to offend us. It is now the time that we must defy who represents us in this life that we seek, content and it is by the ideals that we convey each and every day to our children, our wives, our husbands that will be the mantle of our true self that we place prominently upon the shelf.
Posted by Pharoah | May 30, 2004 9:41 PM
What does Bill Cosby having an illegitimate daughter have to do with African American families who care more about what their kids wear than what they learn? Illegitimacy doesn't automatically mean illiteracy.
I don't know how old Cosby's daughter was when she had her drug problem, but as a single mom of two sons, you raise your kids to the best of your ability, but at some point in time they become adults and make their own choices.
The same people who are shopping at the 24-hour Wal-Mart at 1:00 a.m. with their young children on a school night, who don't get involved with PTA, don't get their children to school on time or make them do their homework because their kid is going to be an NBA star anyway, will be the first ones to bitch that their kids aren't getting a fair shake.
Posted by Jane Howard | June 3, 2004 4:52 AM